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Torey
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PostSubject: do you believe in hell   Wed 24 Mar 2010 - 1:45

for me That must be difficult to go through Leanan, I guess since I discovered paganism at such a young age, before I even had double digits in my age I'd converted so hell didn't really bother me or wasn't part of my Catholic learning yet. It'll get better Leanan, just follow what' you feel is right, don't let others' views sway you. Living a life that others dictate for you might as well be no life at all. And the more you progress in your magical path, the lovelier the feeling of magic may be and the connections you establish to different energetic vibrations could be one of the best feelings you experience

Now, to Hell, I believe that there is a plane of existence that reflects the energy that one has left over from their actions. And whatever moral beliefs one subscribes to, if one thinks that he was a bad person, that plane of existence reflects their opinion of themselves. If one believes they lived a decent life, the plane reflects that belief as
well as their idea of what the afterlife looks like. Because remember, good and evil are human concepts, not natural ones. So what evil is to one person, may not be to another so who dictates which actions one commits will send him to "Heaven" or "Hell"? The only person who decides that is the person based on their belief of right and wrong.

Thanks for listening,, it really allowed me to sort out what I believe
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PostSubject: Re: do you believe in hell   Wed 24 Mar 2010 - 8:13

Hell??

I was told ...dont know if I belive all the time.....we are in hell now and just keep working our ways up to the top to heaven I guess!
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PostSubject: Re: do you believe in hell   Wed 24 Mar 2010 - 8:23

I believe 'hell' is a state of mind.
One can choose to be in hell or not by changing their perception of a situation.
A bit like having a half full or half empty cup.
There are many people I meet who I feel if I were in their shoes I would be a mental case or even not be here by now!
Their lives are 'hell' to me.
But not to them cos they see it in a different light.
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PostSubject: Re: do you believe in hell   Wed 24 Mar 2010 - 17:10

I agree with you Mia.
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PostSubject: Re: do you believe in hell   Fri 14 May 2010 - 17:05

Spirithealer wrote:
Hell??

I was told ...dont know if I belive all the time.....we are in hell now and just keep working our ways up to the top to heaven I guess!

Spirithealer, forget the idea we are in Hell now!
If I may say.

Not even close to it.

I had once vision of Hell and it was totally shocking.
I didnt feel their physical pain....but emotional I did.

They feel NO HOPE.

That is something we cant even imagine.
We have always hope..at least hope of a suicide or death.

But they feel NONE.

The most painful think I have ever felt, without doubt.

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PostSubject: Re: do you believe in hell   Sat 15 May 2010 - 9:34

You know it occurs to me that the word hell is being treated much like the word witch. It is now being used as a term to mean whatever the user wants it to mean, which is fine to some extent. We’ve all said things like, “that was hell on earth” or such. But, hell is a real word with a beginning and a specific meaning in religious terms.

When I went to go and look up the etymology of the word there was a bunch of stuff there, after all the word has been around for a while and has been adapted for many uses. But as far as I could tell in a religious context it was first used to name the place where the Christian “devil” lived. I think it is fine if we use it for other purposes sometimes and to some extent but lets not forget, or ignore the fact, that it has a specific prescribed meaning to a large segment of the human race.
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Medium Laura
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PostSubject: Re: do you believe in hell   Mon 14 Jun 2010 - 1:37

This is my understanding of the Christian "Hell" from my guides.

(Excerpt from my book written by guides and angels)

You will also go through an event of life reflection. This is
where you view your last lifetime in full color and in a three
dimensional hologram. You will feel all the feelings from earth at
this time. You will see how your words or deeds affected others.
If you were unkind, you will feel the recipient’s pain or sadness
from your words or actions. You judge yourself. You judge your
own life. No one else. Your guides remain with you during this
time. They offer support and love.

Another question raised is about a place called hell. Again,
controversy will stem from my next statement; there is no such
place. The creation of hell was by humans. I will not go further
on this subject, as it is against the free will to do so. There is a
level here where spirits who you would believe go to hell, walk.
You though, must make your own choices in these matters.
When you have come to home, you then will smile and
understand.

Humans create their own problems and turmoil. Usually ego
based. Focusing on the bad in any event, instead of on what that
lesson taught you. An example may be, your car breaks down at
4 a.m. You now must walk, alone in the dark to find help. At the
station, you meet a wonderful man. You strike up conversation,
and eventually become friends. Later, marry and have children.
Was this an accident? Was the car breaking down a horrific
event? Do you see? Each thing in your life, leads you forward to
more lessons.

~ A collective of energies
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PostSubject: Re: do you believe in hell   Mon 14 Jun 2010 - 7:56

hell as in a place we can go when when die, as opposed to a state of mind? No I don't!
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Medium Laura
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PostSubject: Re: do you believe in hell   Mon 14 Jun 2010 - 13:02

not a place, like Starbucks. More like a consciousness I think, a way of thinking
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PostSubject: Re: do you believe in hell   Mon 14 Jun 2010 - 16:42

Medium Laura wrote:
not a place, like Starbucks. More like a consciousness I think, a way of thinking
a way of thinking when we are alive- yes.
But not when we are dead.

I believe in reincarnation and the pagan afterlife, the Summer lands. Any lessons we have to learn and any suffering is done while we are alive. after life all there is, is love.
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PostSubject: Re: do you believe in hell   Mon 14 Jun 2010 - 16:48

ML,

Your explanation was almost to a T of what I have been told. I did not totally understand this until I was trying to determine why it was taking my Mom so long to cross over after her death, because my Dad crossed over much quicker. Mom had a troubled life and did many things that hurt others, she was full of negative feelings toward many people etc. The one person that she despised the most, her Dad, was the one that meet her when she crossed.
Anyway, after she crossed and "met up" with my Dad...spirit explained that is what they had been trying to make me understand ....you go through the "process" of judging and reflecting!! WOW
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Medium Laura
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PostSubject: Re: do you believe in hell   Mon 14 Jun 2010 - 17:00

Yes L'angel Smile We put ourselves in hell, no one else does it. It is our own lack of forgiveness of ourselves and others that holds us in this dark place within our minds Smile

James VanPraagh also agrees with this view of Hell
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Libertas
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PostSubject: Re: do you believe in hell   Mon 14 Jun 2010 - 17:35

I have read that before also and always thought it made sense.
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chris
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PostSubject: Re: do you believe in hell   Fri 30 Jul 2010 - 11:10

Do I believe in hell? Sure on earth here its a crowded shopping centre.
because I feel God in me and around me and have a sense of this. i have seen amazing things happen supernatural type things as a Christian instant faith healing etc..on me. if I'm sure God exists because i feel it not because of evidence.then must therefore believe the whole of the story and not pick out just the nice bits I like. I dont want it to be there but if it is took out the eternal life insurance policy to keep out of it.

anyone who says something doesn't exist must have personally explored the whole universe and every dimension. in the light of that "It might exist is a wiser answer" Smile

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PostSubject: Re: do you believe in hell   Fri 30 Jul 2010 - 14:44

Anything is possible!
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PostSubject: Re: do you believe in hell   Thu 30 Sep 2010 - 14:19

well done laura so nicely written,perfect


[quote="Medium Laura"]

You will also go through an event of life reflection. This is
where you view your last lifetime in full color and in a three
dimensional hologram. You will feel all the feelings from earth at
this time. You will see how your words or deeds affected others.
If you were unkind, you will feel the recipient’s pain or sadness
from your words or actions. You judge yourself. You judge your
own life. No one else. Your guides remain with you during this
time. They offer support and love.
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